Voluntary Extension (VE) Examples
Domestic VE Examples
How it Works on Domestic Trips (Section 11.O.1)
Assuming that enough flight attendants accept VE to be able to operate the flight with minimum crew, you’ll be paid 1 minute of flight pay for each 2 minutes you’re on duty. This begins at your report (sign-in) time and ends at the release (the end of your 15 minute debrief) of your duty day.
- VE is paid off the actual duty day and not what is projected/rescheduled.
NOTE: the VE indicator will normally show on the first leg of the extended duty period but not on the other legs.
Example 1:Â Delay when flying a domestic turnaround resulting in VE pay.
The crew was delayed returning from SEA by 5.30 hrs. This would have brought the duty day to 15.26 hrs, but the sequence has a max of 15 hrs. VE was offered and accepted.
The VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated.
In this case, The Duty Period reported at 11:00 and released at 02:26 the next morning for a total of 15.26 hrs on duty. 1 minute of pay for every 2 minutes on duty (i.e. 1/2 of the total) is 7.43 hrs of VE pay. This trip was worth the 8.13 hrs of regular pay + 7.43 hrs (VE) pay for a total of 15.56 hrs.
Total pay for the sequence: 8.13 hrs of regular pay + 7.43 hrs (VE) pay for a total of 15.56 hrs.
In this example, the crew was delayed returning from SEA by 5.30 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.26 hrs (max 15 hrs) The crew accepted the duty waiver and Crew Tracking added the VE to the schedule. The total flight hours for this sequence are 8.13 hrs.
The crew will receive additional flight time pay at the rate of one (1) minute of flight pay for each two (2) minutes on duty for the extended duty period.
In this case the duty period was 15.26 hrs, at a rate of 1:2 so the crew will receive an additional 7.43 hrs of pay only. Total pay for the sequence: 8.13 hrs + 7.43 hrs = 15.56 hrs total pay.
Example 2: Delay when flying a multi-day domestic sequence resulting in VE pay on the 2nd day.
The crew was delayed out of DFW on the 2nd day by 3 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.22 hrs (max 15 hrs). The crew accepted the duty waiver.
The VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated.
The duty period was 12.30 hrs, at a rate of 1:2 the crew will receive an additional 6.15 hrs of VE pay only. Total pay for the sequence: 10.21 hrs + 6.15 hrs (VE) from day 2 Duty Period = 16.36 hrs
Total pay for the sequence: 10.21 hrs + 6.15 hrs (VE) from day 2 Duty Period = 16.36 hrs
In this example, the crew was delayed out of DFW on the 2nd day by 3 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.22 hrs (max 15 hrs). The crew accepted the duty waiver.
In actual operations the flight cancelled and the crew was released.
The crew will receive additional flight time pay for the actual duty day at the rate of one (1) minute of flight pay for each two (2) minutes on duty for the duty period was extended, even though the flight cancelled and the max on duty had not been exceeded.
In this case the duty period was 12.30 hrs, at a rate of 1:2 the crew will receive an additional 6.15 hrs of pay only.
Total pay for the sequence: 10.21 hrs + 6.15 hrs (VE) from day 2 Duty Period = 16.36 hrs Â
Example 3:Â A crew initially being projected to exceed duty limitations, accepting the VE offer, not exceeding on duty maximum in actual operations, but receiving VE pay anyway.
The crew was delayed departing ORD by 2.30 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.25 hrs. (25 minutes over the operational on duty maximum of 15 hours). The crew accepted the duty waiver.
The VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated.
The duty period was 14.54 hrs at a rate of 1:2 the crew will receive an additional 7.27 hrs of pay only. Total pay for the sequence: 17.29 hrs regular pay + 7.27 hrs (VE) = 24.56 hrs.
Total pay for the sequence: 17.29 hrs regular pay + 7.27 hrs (VE) = 24.56 hrs.
In this example, the crew was delayed departing ORD by 2.30 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.25 hrs. (25 minutes over the operational on duty maximum of 15 hours). The crew accepted the duty waiver.
In actual operations the crew underflew. Although the max on duty was not exceeded, the crew will still receive additional flight time pay at the rate of one (1) minute of flight pay for each two (2) minutes on duty for the duty period that was extended.
In this case the duty period was 14.54 hrs at a rate of 1:2 the crew will receive an additional 7.27 hrs of pay only.
Total pay for the sequence: 17.29 hrs regular pay + 7.27 hrs (VE) = 24.56 hrs.
Example 4:Â A crew who is legal to depart, overflies and ends up exceeding their on duty maximum, but does not receive VE pay.
The crew was delayed departing ORD by 2.00 hrs but they were still legal to complete the flight at departure time and therefore Crew Tracking did not offer VE.
In actual operations the crew overflew by 20 minutes on the last leg in the duty period. Even though this caused them to exceed the on duty maximum, VE pay is not applicable, since the crew was legal at time of departure.
In this example, while the crew was delayed departing ORD by 2.00 hrs they were still legal to complete the flight at departure time and therefore Crew Tracking did not offer VE.
In actual operations the crew overflew by 20 minutes on the last leg in the duty period. Even though this caused them to exceed the on duty maximum, VE pay is not applicable, since the crew was legal at time of departure.
International VE Examples
How it Works on International Trips (Section 14.D.1)
- VE applies to all non-long range flying.
- On long-range flying, you may waive your on-duty limitations up to a maximum of 19 hours (9/3/15 Letter of Agreement).
- Flight Attendants accepting Crew Tracking’s offer to extend their duty day are paid 200% (100% credit), including premiums, for all hours paid within the duty period they agreed to accept VE.
VE pay does not apply to extended long-range flying.
Example 1: A Non-Long Range international turnaround sequence where the crew is delayed on the return flight, accepts Crew Tracking’s offer of VE pay, ends up exceeding their on duty limitation, and is paid VE.
The crew was delayed departing OGG by 3 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 16.44 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
The VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated. Â
In actual operations the crew underflew by 14 minutes. The return leg is paid based on the greater of scheduled or actual, so the time on which the VE pay is based remains 5.10 hrs.
The crew will be paid 11.14 hrs (100% trip) + 11.14 hrs (100% VE) = 22.28 hrs (200%)
Additionally, any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid an additional 100% (22.28 total hrs purser pay/ galley pay at the applicable rate).
In this example, the crew was delayed departing OGG by 3 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 16.44 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
In actual operations the crew underflew by 14 minutes. The return leg is paid based on the greater of scheduled or actual, so the time on which the VE pay is based remains 5.10 hrs.
The crew will be paid 11.14 hrs (100% trip) + 11.14 hrs (100% VE) = 22.28 hrs (200%)
Additionally, any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid an additional 100% (22.28 total hrs purser pay/ galley pay at the applicable rate).
Example 2: A Non-Long Range international turnaround sequence where the crew is delayed on the originating flight, accepts Crew Tracking’s offer of VE pay, ends up not exceeding their on duty limitation, and is still paid VE.
The crew was delayed out of LAX by 2.25 hrs upon origination. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 16.09 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
The VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated.
In actual operations the crew underflew by 39 minutes. The leg is paid based on the greater of scheduled or actual, so the time on which the VE pay is based remains 6.02 hrs.
The crew will be paid 11.14 hrs (100% trip) + 11.14 hrs (100% VE) = 22.28 hrs (200%)
Additionally any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid an additional 100% (22.28 total hrs purser pay/ galley pay at the applicable rate).
In this example, the crew was delayed out of LAX by 2.25 hrs upon origination. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 16.09 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
- In actual operations the crew under flew by 39 minutes. The leg is paid based on the greater of scheduled or actual, so the time remains at 6.02 hrs.
- Even though in the end the crew did not exceed the max on duty of 16 hrs, the VE (Voluntary duty waiver pay) still applies.
The crew will be paid 11.14 hrs (100% trip) + 11.14 hrs (100% VE) = 22.28 hrs (200%). The crew will be paid a total of 200% = 22.28 hrs (11.14 hrs for the trip and 11.14 hrs for the VE pay).
Additionally, any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid an additional 100% (22.28 total hrs purser pay/ galley pay at the applicable rate).
Example 3:Â A crew working a multi-day Non-Long Range international sequence that is delayed on their 3rd day, agrees to VE pay, has their flight cancel, and still receives VE pay.
The crew was delayed out of MIA on the 3rd day by 3.30 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 16.28 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
The VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated.
In actual operations the flight cancelled and the crew was released at 2230. Although the flight did not operate, the crew had agreed to exceed their on duty limitation. The VE pay still applies for that duty period.
Additional credit applied since the Duty rig (2:1) generated 0.08 hrs, so the pay generated for the 3rd day came to 6.00 hrs. The crew will be paid 5.52 hrs (100% actual duty time) + 0.08 hrs (2:1 Duty Rig) = 6 hrs (Total) for the 3rd day.
The pay generated for the 3rd day came to 6.00 hrs. The crew will be paid 6 hrs (100% 3rd day) + 6 hrs (100% VE) = 12 hrs (200%)Â for the 3rd day.
Additionally, any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid an additional 100% (ex 6 total hrs purser pay/ galley pay at the applicable rate).
In this example, the crew was delayed out of MIA on the 3rd day by 3.30 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 16.28 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
- In actual operations the flight cancelled and the crew was released at 2230.
- Although the flight did not operate, the crew had agreed to exceed their on duty limitation. The VE pay still applies for that duty period.
The pay generated for the 3rd day came to 6.00 hrs. The crew will be paid 6 hrs at 200% for the 3rd day:Â 6 hrs (100% day 3) + 6 hrs (100% VE) = 12 hrs (200%)
- Additional credit applied since the Duty rig (2:1) generated 0.08 hrs
Additionally, any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid an additional 100% (22.28 total hrs purser pay/ galley pay at the applicable rate).
Example 4: A crew working a Non-Long Range sequence is delayed on the last leg of their second duty period. (This leg happens to be a domestic leg.) The crew agreed to extend their duty day and receive VE pay.
The crew was delayed out of MIA going to IAD by 4.27 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 17.29 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver. Since this is an international sequence, the VE pay is based on the international formula of 200%.
The VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated.
The pay generated for the 2nd day came to 9.07 hrs so the crew will be paid 200% at 9.07 hrs for the 2nd duty period = 18.14 hrs.Â
The paid hours generated for this sequence are:
3.00 hrs DP 1
9.07 hrs DP 2
+ 1.13 hrs trip rig
= 13.20 hrs (including 6.32 hrs of International Premium)
+ 9.07 hrs (VE pay (including 6.32 hrs of International Premium)
= 22.27 hrs Total Paid hrs (includes 13.04 hrs of International premium)
In this example, has a non-long range leg on the 2nd day. The maximum on duty is 16.00 hrs and, since this is an international sequence, the VE pay is based on the international formula of 200%.
The crew was delayed out of MIA on the 2nd day by 4.27 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 17.29 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
The crew will be paid 9.07 hrs at 200% for the 2nd duty period = 18.14 hrs.
The paid hours for this sequence are:
12.07 hrs     Flight hrs
+ 1.13 hrs       trip rig
= 13.20 hrs (including 6.32 hrs of International Premium)
+ 9.07 hrs       VE pay (including 6.32 hrs of International Premium)
= 22.27 hrs      Total paid hrs (includes 13.04 hrs of International Premium)
Example 5: A crew who is legal to depart, overflies and ends up exceeding their on duty maximum, but does not receive VE pay.
The crew was delayed out of KOA by 2.00 hrs. The delay did not cause the crew to be scheduled beyond 16:00 hrs on duty maximum. The crew was legal for departure and no VE was offered.
In actual operations the crew overflew by 30 minutes on the last leg.
Even though the max on duty of 16 hrs had been exceeded by 14 minutes, the VE pay is not applicable, since the crew was legal at the time of departure.
In this example, the crew was delayed out of KOA by 2.00 hrs. The delay did not cause the crew to be scheduled beyond the 16.00 hrs on duty maximum. The crew was legal for departure.
In actual operations the crew overflew by 30 minutes on the last leg.
Even though the max on duty of 16 hrs had been exceeded by 14 minutes, the VE pay is not applicable, since the crew was legal at the time of departure.
Example 6: A crew working a Long-Range sequence who experiences a delay, agrees to waive to 19 hours, the flight ultimately cancels, and the crew receives VE pay in addition to call-out pay.
The crew boarded and the subsequent delay would have brought the duty day from ORD-NRT to 1810 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
The VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated.Â
In actual operations the flight cancelled and the crew was released at 16:10.
Although the flight did not operate, since the crew already agreed to exceed their on duty limitation, they receive VE pay for the duty period – totaling 6.00 hrs.
The pay generated for the day came to 3.00 hrs (call out pay).
The crew will be paid 3.00 hrs at 200% for the day = 6.00 hrs. In this example, the crew receives pay only since call out pay is not credited.
Total pay for this sequence:
3.00 hrs call out
+ 3.00 hrs VE
= 6.00 hrs total pay
In this example, the crew boarded and the subsequent delay would have brought the duty day to 18:10 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
In actual operations the flight cancelled and the crew was released at 16:10.
Although the flight did not operate, since the crew already agreed to exceed their on duty limitation, they receive VE pay for the duty period – totaling 6.00 hrs.
The pay generated for the day came to 3.00 hrs (call out pay). The crew will be paid 3.00 hrs at 200% for the day = 6.00 hrs. In this example, the crew receives pay only since call out pay is not credited.
Total pay for this sequence:
3.00 hrs call out
+ 3.00 hrs VE
= 6.00 hrs total pay
Example 7: A crew working an IPD trip that is delayed working the return leg, accepts Crew Tracking’s offer of VE pay, ultimately leaves earlier than planned, and receives VE pay.
In the example, above the crew was initially estimated to be delayed departing EZE by 4 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 16.34 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
The VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated.
In actual operations the flight left 10 minutes earlier (3.50 hrs past originally scheduled departure time), but the flight time remained the same.
The crew will be paid 11.04 hrs at 200% = 22.08 hrs
The crew will be paid 11.04 hrs at 200% = 22.08 hrs
Additionally, any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid at 200% (22.08 hrs purser pay/ galley pay at the applicable rate).
The paid hours for this sequence are:
 21.27 hrs     Flight hrs
  5.17 hrs      trip rig
+ 11.04 hrs      VE pay
  37.48 hrs    Total paid hrs
In the example, above the crew was initially estimated to be delayed departing EZE by 4 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 16.34 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
In actual operations the flight left 10 minutes earlier (3.50 hrs past originally scheduled departure time), but the flight time remained the same.
The crew will be paid 11.04 hrs at 200% = 22.08 hrs. Additionally any premiums (i.e. international, purser, galley) would be paid at 200% (22.08 hrs purser pay/ galley pay at the applicable rate).
The paid hours for this sequence are:
 21.27 hrs     Flight hrs
  5.17 hrs      trip rig
+ 11.04 hrs      VE pay
  37.48 hrs    Total paid hrs
Unique VE Situations
Example 1: VE on last day of month sequence, where pay only carries past midnight into the next month (11.D.6) VE is added to the month where sequence terminated.
In the example above, the crew was delayed departing MCO by 2.19Â hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.37 hrs. (37 minutes over the operational on duty maximum of 15 hours). The crew accepted the duty waiver.
The VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated.
In this case the duty period was 14.43 hrs at a rate of 1:2 the crew will receive an additional 7.21 hrs of pay only.
This sequence has 10.12 hrs regular pay (7.06 hrs on May 1st) and partially in the May contractual month (3.06 hrs on May 2nd)
Total pay for the sequence is 10.12 hrs (7.06 hrs on May 1st and 3.06 hrs on May 2nd) + 7.21 hrs (VE) = 17.33 hrs.
In this case the duty period was 14.43 hrs at a rate of 1:2 the crew will receive an additional 7.21 hrs of pay only.
This sequence has 10.12 hrs regular pay (7.06 hrs on May 1st) and partially in the May contractual month (3.06 hrs on May 2nd)
Total pay for the sequence is 10.12 hrs (7.06 hrs on May 1st and 3.06 hrs on May 2nd) + 7.21 hrs (VE) = 17.33 hrs.
In this example, the crew was delayed departing MCO by 2.19Â hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.37 hrs. (37 minutes over the operational on duty maximum of 15 hours). The crew accepted the duty waiver.
In actual operations the crew underflew. Although the max on duty was not exceeded, the crew will still receive additional flight time pay at the rate of one (1) minute of flight pay for each two (2) minutes on duty for the duty period that was extended.
In this case the duty period was 14.43 hrs at a rate of 1:2 the crew will receive an additional 7.21 hrs of pay only.
In this example, the sequence terminated on May 1st, but with release at 00:08 hrs, some pay carries over into the next contractual month. However, the VE pay, however, is paid in the month where the sequence originated.
This sequence has 10.12 hrs regular pay (7.06 hrs on May 1st) and partially in the May contractual month (3.06 hrs on May 2nd). Total pay for the sequence is 10.12 hrs (7.06 hrs on May 1st and 3.06 hrs on May 2nd) + 7.21 hrs (VE) = 17.33 hrs.
While the VE designator appears on the sequence, the actual VE pay will appear on your HI1. You can see that the VE was paid on May 1st, during the April contractual month as ´VE PAY´. However, as the sequence release time carried over into the next contractual month so 7.06 hrs were paid in the Aprtil HI1 and  3.06 hrs were paid in the May HI1.
On this HI1 for April, the sequence terminated on May1st which is part of the April contractual month, so the VE is paid on May 1st.
The sequence actually carried over into the May contractual month because of the 15 minute release time, until 00:08 hrs. In this case, 3.06 hrs are paid in the next month, on May 2nd.
The sequence actually carried over into the May contractual month because of the 15 minute release time, until 00:08 hrs. In this case, 7.06 hrs are paid in the April contractual month, on May 1st and the rest in the next contractual month.
Example 2: VE with ODANs - the duty period continues even during the break between legs so VE pay is calculated on full duty period report to release for the sequence.
In the example above, the crew was delayed departing PVD by 6.33 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 19.32 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
The VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated.
In this case the actual duty period was 19.02 hrs at a rate of 1:2 the crew will receive an additional 9.31 hrs of pay only.
In this example, the crew was delayed departing PVD by 6.33 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 19.32 hrs. The crew accepted the duty waiver.
Although the crew had stayed at the hotel for most of the delay time, ODANs are a single duty period so the VE pay is based on the entire period from sign in the day before to release the next day.
In this case the actual duty period was 19.02 hrs at a rate of 1:2 the crew will receive an additional 9.31 hrs of pay only.
While the VE designator appears on the sequence, the actual amount of VE pay will appear on your HI1. On the right you can see that the VE was paid on May 23rd as ´VE PAY´.
On this HI1, the VE is paid on the 23rd in the amount of 9.31 hrs.
On this HI1, the VE is paid on the 23rd in the amount of 9.31 hrs.
Example 3: VE on the day of a Double Up
For this Double up example, Seq. 31018 is overlapping with Seq. 14631 and on the Duty Period where the overlap occurs, the flight from CLT was delayed by 1.26 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.05 hrs. The Flight Attendant accepted the duty waiver.
With Double Ups, the VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated, of the sequence in progress when the waiver was accepted.
In this case, the actual duty period for VE was 15.07 hrs at a rate of 1:2 so the extra VE pay was 7.33 hrs.
With Double Ups, it is important ensure that Report and Release times are converted to the same time zone when calculating the length of the Duty Period.
In this case, the Duty Period where the VE duty waiver was accepted reported at SNA at 6:55 am Pacific Time. It released in OMA at 00:02am Central time.
In this case, the actual duty period for VE was 15.07 hrs at a rate of 1:2 so the extra VE pay was 7.33 hrs.
With Double Ups, it is important ensure that Report and Release times are converted to the same time zone when calculating the length of the Duty Period.
In this case, the Duty Period where the VE duty waiver was accepted reported at SNA at 6:55 am Pacific Time. It released in OMA at 00:02am Central time.
For this Double up, Seq. 31018 is overlapping with Seq. 14631 and on the Duty Period of overlap, the flight from CLT was delayed by 1.26 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.05 hrs. The Flight Attendant accepted the duty waiver.
With Double Ups, it is important ensure that Report and Release times are converted to the same time zone when calculating the length of the Duty Period.
In this case, the Duty Period where the VE duty waiver was accepted reported at SNA at 6:55 am Pacific Time. It released in OMA at 00:02am Central Time.
In this case, the actual duty period for VE was 15.07 hrs at a rate of 1:2 so the extra VE pay was 7.33 hrs.
This Flight Attendant was paid as follows:
10.00 hrs regular pay for Seq 31018
23.32 hrs regular pay for Seq 14631
+ 7.33 hrs VE pay
41.05 hrs Total
For this Double up example, Seq. 31018 is overlapping with Seq. 14631 and on the Duty Period where the overlap occurs, the flight from CLT was delayed by 1.26 hrs. The additional time would have brought the duty day to 15.05 hrs. The Flight Attendant accepted the duty waiver.
With Double Ups, the VE code appears on the first leg of the Duty Period where VE pay will be calculated, of the sequence in progress when the waiver was accepted.
In this case, the actual duty period for VE was 15.07 hrs at a rate of 1:2 so the extra VE pay was 7.33 hrs.
With Double Ups, it is important ensure that Report and Release times are converted to the same time zone when calculating the length of the Duty Period.
In this case, the Duty Period where the VE duty waiver was accepted reported at SNA at 6:55 am Pacific Time. It released in OMA at 00:02am Central time.
In this case, the actual duty period for VE was 15.07 hrs at a rate of 1:2 so the extra VE pay was 7.33 hrs.
With Double Ups, it is important ensure that Report and Release times are converted to the same time zone when calculating the length of the Duty Period.
In this case, the Duty Period where the VE duty waiver was accepted reported at SNA at 6:55 am Pacific Time. It released in OMA at 00:02am Central time.